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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Face Map?
« on: June 22, 2013, 02:30:47 PM »
Practically, certain areas on the face (such as around the eyes, above the lips, the nasolabial fold etc.) can only be rolled in one direction (either vertically or horizontally) and you should not worry too much about spreading the pricks evenly. Do it in a way that is feasible and comfortable. It does not really matter which direction you roll. Just lift the roller after each roll so that the needles do not fall exactly into the same channels (that happens if you roll back and forth without lifting).

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: regarding blood on stamp
« on: June 22, 2013, 07:09:00 AM »
No, they won't.

Something with a substantially lower hardness can never damage something with a substantially higher hardness.

You can scratch a pice of chalk with a piece of steel, but you can't scratch a piece of steel with a piece fo chalk, not matter how much and how long you try.

The bristles of a toothbrush have a very, very low hardness and stainless steel is very, very much harder (many orders of magnitude, it's an exponential scale so steel is millions of times harder than the plastic used in a toothbrush).

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: What risk of prohibition?
« on: June 22, 2013, 06:56:10 AM »
You're raising a valid and interesting point, and indeed we have been worrying about that possibility as well.

Dermaneedling is a "game changer", a "paradigm shift" in skincare in the sense that extremely effective treatment suddenly becomes cheaply available to the masses. Suddenly, anyone with a few dollars and some effort and patience can greatly improve their acne scars and stretchmarks, something that used to cost thousands in a specialized clinic with lasers and the like.

Naturally, the thousands of wealthy doctors that paid a small fortune for their lasers will lobby to get home needling banned. They will most likely succeed, because authority figures, themselves unqualified, tend to listen to doctor's advice, and that advice will be "ban it". For the same reasons, home teeth whitening products have been banned as a result of the dentists' lobby, and those who sell them have been declared criminals of the worst kind (just below murder) and get jailed for YEARS:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232745/Barrington-Armstrong-Thorpe-jailed-16-months-selling-illegal-tooth-whitening-gel-online-100-TIMES-safe-level-cleaning-chemicals.html

We will suddenly start reading media reports how "home rollers" died a horrible, drawn-out death of gangrene and their arms and legs and eventually their head had to be amputated etc. etc., with a warning about "ruthless cynical online scammers" selling "dangerous fraudulent needle devices". Then customs officers around the world will be notified not to let dermaneedling instruments through.

This exact scenario happened with the BreastLight for example, a cheap but rather effective home breast lump diagnosis device that puts the power of early diagnosis in the hands of women:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2215339/Breastlight-Thousands-misled-torch-claims-detect-breast-cancer.html

The Breastlight was declared a "fake and dangerous device" and its vendors criminals. The device was then banned worldwide. Not because it's illegal by any law, but just because. By some type of executive order or request to countries. And they complied.

So this scenario plays itself out whenever the profits of the established order are threatened. Something that is cheap and that really works is a severe threat and they will fight tooth and nail to get it banned.




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Skin 44, thank you for helping the others by writing about your experience.
 
Could you please make a new forum posting in this "sticky" thread:
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/questions-about-our-three-a-ret-creams/
 
and copy there what you said about our Tretinoin cream helping with your cystic acne remains?

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Correct.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: I LOVE Infadolan! Anyone else?!!
« on: June 20, 2013, 07:12:23 PM »
Thank you very much for writing about your experience with Infadolan!
 
Infadolan is primarily intended for dermaneedling aftercare (especially if using longer than 0.5 mm needles) but it has also other uses.
 
It is too oily to be applied as a daily overall facial care but it is very suitable for the purposes that you mentioned - dry areas of the face (around the eyes, on the lips, eczemas, dermatitis etc.), dry areas anywhere on the body (great for protection of the back of the hands, cracked heels, eczemas, xerosis, cuts etc.).
 
Infadolan is a semi-occlusive. It prevents the evaporation of water from the skin, thus being excellent for dry skin. Dry skin is caused by increased water evaporation from the skin due to a compromised outermost layer of skin barrier, making it not function properly, causing excessive evaporation. Infadoan serves as a moisture barrier.
 
It also facilitates the re-epithelisation of the skin.
 
There is a "fan club" forum thread about Infadolan:
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/infadolan-experience-thread/

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: The best derma rolling for me
« on: June 20, 2013, 06:42:10 PM »
Oh, I see, the scar is much lower. In this case, use a 1 mm dermastamp on the main scar and our single needles on the small raised lines that are vertically crossing the main scar. Stamp and needle every 10 to 14 days.
 
As long as the scars are raised, perform the pressure massage (after stamping and needling but also in between) that is described here:
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/what-to-do-about-hypertrophic-scars/
 
Please send photos of your neck after a couple of months.
 

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Suctioning should only be used on scars that very likely are tethered (the rolling type of acne scars) or on scars that have resisted all other treatments (in the latter case suctioning is experimental, as a last resort kind of self-treatment).
 
Needling does not cut the fibers but disrupts them and suctioning stretches them. Saline injections for example are done after a subcision but not always. Mere saline injection (without subcision) that just stretches the fibers sometimes improve indented scars. More about saline injections here:
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Saline-injections-for-acne-scars
 
Needling the skin prior to suctioning makes bruising after suctioning almost inevitable. Getting bruises may further help improving scars because autologous blood injections were found to improve scars:
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/autologous-%28own%29-blood-injection-for-acne-scars-or-atrophic-scars/
 
Nothing prevents you from going to a doctor for a real subcision but our website is aimed at self-treatment and real horizontal subcision to cut the fibers is too risky to be done as self-treatment. It can leave scars.
 
I understand that it is difficult to walk around with bruises. You should try everything else first and only if it doesn’t help, add suctioning.
 
Scars are in general very difficult to improve with all current methods, even the most advanced and expensive ones. A combination of approaches is often necessary. Unfortunately, there is no magic solution and if nothing works, you have to start with "try and see" methods until you basically exhausted your options.
 
Many of our customers spent thousands of dollars on laser treatments or acid peels without any improvement. If the suction method does not improve your scars, you lost 19 dollars.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: regarding blood on stamp
« on: June 20, 2013, 05:28:41 PM »
I don't think a garden hose will help but I suggest using a new toothbrush purchased for that purpose.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Just discovered dermarolling
« on: June 20, 2013, 05:27:00 PM »
>Based on what Lisa wrote, I thought she'd leave the tape on over night.
 

She says:
 
"I have noticed in the last few months that one of the keys in preventative
maintanence, and keeping crows feet looking good after you have achieved
desired results is to continue to do tape suction meathod on this(any) area
every night."

 
 
Tape suction means you stick the tape to the skin and pull/suction the skin up with the tape.
 
 
>By "one session", do you mean stamping/rolling session?
 

I mean one "taping" session. Pull it up repeatedly during one "taping" session. However, the skin around the eyes is very thin and sensitive so you must do it gently.
 
In case of "frown" wrinkles in between the eyebrows (the so called 11's), if the muscles are basically in a permanent spasm and frowning becomes more or less the default facial expression, using some tape (for example Micropore Surgical Tape) overnight or even during the day to prevent the frowning reflex can help.

Stretch the frown lines apart with your fingers and place the tape over the stretched skin. The tape should hold the skin in such a way that it makes it hard to frown.
 

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: regarding blood on stamp
« on: June 20, 2013, 10:22:16 AM »
You can do that, yes.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: regarding blood on stamp
« on: June 20, 2013, 09:51:55 AM »
How to remove that blood easily in two seconds is explained in the last paragraph of the sales description of the long-needled dermastamps:

http://shop.owndoc.com/product-info.php?dermastamp2mm-pid199.html

With this model, it is possible to get some discoloration caused by blood staining at the needle base. A good way to clean this up is to take a plant mister and set it to spray a small, tight stream of water. Then spray the stamp while holding it needles-side up.  This cleans it out completely in a matter of seconds.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: DermaJet for Acne Scarring
« on: June 20, 2013, 07:44:23 AM »
Operating instructions for the DermaJet have been available for about a week in our dermaneedling instructions. There is a chapter for the DermaJet.

And the DermaJet's technical instructions are here:

http://owndoc.com/pdf/DermaJet-Manual.pdf

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Thank you for reporting your experience! Please keep us posted.
 
Our copper peptide serum is more or less moisturizing enough for normal skin but not for dry skin. It also depends if you live in dry climate etc. I do not think that applying your moisturizer is too much.
 
There is no other way then trying it. If you prefer, stop your moisturizer and see whether your skin gets dry. Give it a week and then decide to restart or not.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: The best derma rolling for me
« on: June 18, 2013, 01:25:50 PM »
Concerning your forehead, buy a regular 1 mm dermaroller.  If you get no improvement in six months, add a 1.5 mm dermastamp or the single needles.

Concerning pores, please read the information concerning enlarged pores in our instructions:

http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf

To treat the scar from your thyroid gland operation is a bit tricky because it is in the middle part of the neck, below the Adam's apple. I would not recommend longer needles than a 0.5 mm dermastamp.