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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: DermaJet for Acne Scarring
« on: June 25, 2013, 06:06:18 PM »
I think the 0.2 mm was a good option because some bleeding actually occurred. Infadolan is now applied to the treated areas and soon I will apply the copper peptide mask or should I go with the serum instead this time since the needling depth was only 0.2 mm?


Apply Infadolan.
 

You mean 1 mm or 1.5 mm? Yes I meant those sizes, I misstyped. Since some bleeding occured (using 0.2 mm) even on my shoulder where the skin is a bit thicker, does this still mean it's okay to try the deeper settings? Maybe I should point out that I am a male.

 

Try the 0.5 mm and from there you can go to the 1 mm (but not on the front of you neck).
 
The epidermis has no blood supply but the epidermis is only about 0.1-0.3 mm thick (depending where on the body it resides). The dermis below has capillaries and they are quite dense even in the upper dermis but the deeper you go the thicker the capillaries are.
 
 
 

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Yes, this would be fine.

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Wait with the Retin A until the skin is not red any more.
 
BTW, some of our customers who are struggling with "stubborn" scars are applying the A-Ret right after dermarolling (it stings and it irritates the skin) to induce intensive peeling.
 
You can read about it n this forum thread (reply 25 from Cesamaddictaol and my reply 26):
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/evenly-spread-acne-scars/15/
 
However, concerning acne scars, I only recommend A-ret right after dermaneedling after many months of dermaneedling, after you decide that dermaneedling does not significantly improve the scars any further. Then it is time to improvise a little and combine various methods.

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Sarita, thank you very much for taking the time to describe your journey and your experience to our readers who mostly have been struggling with acne and acne scars.
 
Scars are not an easy problem to solve and trying/combining various approaches is often necessary, at least in case of "stubborn" scars.
 
Many forum members described their experience with acne scars and their improvement on this forum. You may be able to find them. Some of our sticky forum postings are about the struggle against acne scars as well.
 
Please keep us posted!

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Acne scars treatment
« on: June 25, 2013, 03:54:23 PM »
Your aftercare is fine.
 
The 1 mm dermastamp will work but some of your scars look like a 1.5 mm dermastamp will be worth trying in the future.
 
You can roll up to three times a week with the 0.5 mm roller. If your skin peels too much, roll only once a week.

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Thank you for your posting. Hope you will soon receive the dermastamp.

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Correct. We make no exceptions because our decision not to ship to unsupported countries is based on years of actual negative experiences (usually, multiple tracked packages disappearing). Deciding not to ship to a country is not done lightly and involved discussing all issues and alternatives. When our losses are too great and we see no way to solve it, we drop a country. Years ago, we shipped to all countries in the world.

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In your case I recommend the combination of a regular 1.5 mm dermaroller + a 1.5 mm dermastamp with 35 needles + our 0.1% Tretinoin cream. Follow the routine I describe here:
 
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/Stretch-Marks-individual-needling
 
We now also sell an electrically powered "DermaJet" (it basically is an electric dermastamp with adjustable needle length and it really works, contrary to all the other devices out there) but unless you have an extensive amount of stretch marks, it is not necessary. A manual dermastamp will do the same job, only it is more laborious because you have to power it yourself with your hand.

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Yes, you can roll with a 0.5 mm roller up to three times a week in between your dermastamping sessions.
 
If you have quite serious scars, you should have bought a 1.5 mm dermastamp. Or at least buy it in the future, after your 1 mm dermastamp gets blunt. If you have mild scars, a 1 mm size is OK.

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Have you used the dermastamp before without using the mask? I am just asking whether your skin reacted differently to dermastamping without the mask. Even if you do not push the needles fully in, it probably penetrates much deeper than a 0.5 mm. It would be wiser to apply just Infadolan right after the treatment and the mask a day or two later. 
 
>I am having great success thus far with your products and your method!
 
Would you mind telling me what exactly you are treating and what has improved?

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: DermaJet for Acne Scarring
« on: June 24, 2013, 04:55:43 PM »
How hard are you pushing? What if you just move the device smoothly without pressing down too hard? You could wet the skin with water, if that helps.

I just added more pages with very useful info to the DermaJet chapter:

http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf

Just wash the Chloramine-T off. Read the DermaJet chapter for details. You can read there how much you should move over the skin etc.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: DermaJet for Acne Scarring
« on: June 24, 2013, 12:58:52 PM »
I will answerthe rest later, but because I wanted to warn you:

1. Do not put the DermaJet on your skin, hold it and let it punch three times. As our new DermaJet chapter says, keep it moving at all times.

2. Do not use Chloramine-T to sterilize the DermaJet needle cartridges. As our new DermaJet chapter says, use alcohol.

As for 2 vs 3 Hz: It was a mistake by the vendor. The minium speed is indeed 3 Hz.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: DermaJet for Acne Scarring
« on: June 23, 2013, 05:29:46 PM »
To PermaYouth:
 
>Many small acne scars but spread out all over the face, front neck and back neck. I have *recently had most of them filled up with Restylane so they are not as prominent as before.

 
 
In all these areas, the DermaJet is suitable and could help a lot with scars, however be careful on the front of the neck because the skin is quite thin so adjust the length accordingly.
 
 
>Another clinic offered me a deeper fraxel treatment including narcosis (unlike last clinic and it *hurts like hell!) performed by a surgeon for 28000 SEK
 
 
 
It hurts because it basically vaporizes small columns of skin. Those reading our forum know that I have never crusaded against lasers for skin treatments but I have just tried to explain that laser is not some kind of magic performing light. Laser merely heats up the skin because the components of the skin absorb the light and that heats them up. It can be heated just a little or so much that it cuts it. It cuts steel as well.
 
 
>I am going to use 0.5 mm setting on a small path to begin with before doing my whole face, *front and back neck.

 
 
This is a very good idea.
 
 
>Should I perform a path-test with 0.1 or 1.5 mm also?
 
 
 
You mean 1 mm or 1.5 mm?
 
Definitely yes.
 
 
 
>What about Infadolan,
 
 

Infadolan is not intended for pre-treatment but for post-treatment for protection and moisturizing of the treated skin.
 
 
 
>Is the skin also supposed to be sterilized prior to DermaJet procedure?
 
 
The skin should be disinfected prior to treatment and the needle cartridge must be cleaned and disinfected after the treatment (removing skin debris from the needles and disinfecting the needles after the treatment is especially important). Do not treat extensive areas in one go. Treat one area. When it has healed, treat the other.
 
Yes, if possible avoid blood thinners and strong anti-inflammatories prior to, and at least a few hours after the procedure.
 

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: DermaJet for Acne Scarring
« on: June 22, 2013, 04:43:37 PM »
To Stephanie: As we say in our dermarolling instructions, miconeedling is effective for icepick acne scars and other type of acne or other scars but it is almost never effective for enlarged pores and very few of our customers reported improvement of their enlarged pores. I am not completely sure what you mean by "pinprick scars" and whether you in fact mean enlarged pores.
 
You should first try to single needle just a few of the pinprick scars to see how they react to needling.
 
The same goes for the DermaJet. First try it on a small area of your face.
 
Please do not start with long needles when you use a DermaJet. The DermaJet pushes the needles into the skin with quite some force due to its power so the needles really penetrate as deep as they can go. Initially, adjust the needle length for 0.5 mm and later, when you know how much the area bleeds and how painful it is, you can go for the 1 mm size. This advice concerns all areas. Start with the 0.5 mm. 
 
Also, always start with the slowest speed. The speed of the DermaJet can be adjusted.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Acne scars treatment
« on: June 22, 2013, 04:05:51 PM »
In your case, you should keep long gaps in between your stamping sessions because it seems your skin completely peels off after dermastamping. There is always some visible or invisible peeling after deep mcironeedling but your skin obviously peels a lot. If you exfoliate, reduce the frequency of exfoliation as well.
 
You should consider using a 1.5 mm dermastamp in the future.
 
Yes, rolling with a 0.5 mm roller will help preventing, acne, unclog pores and should even out the skin tone.