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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Our Derminator® is finally for sale!
« on: December 14, 2014, 06:42:30 PM »
Finally we announce the world's only fully digital dermaneedling device, the DERMINATOR.

I'm announcing this months after we started selling, because only since recently we aren't constantly sold out.

We invented, designed, prototyped and now manufacture this machine ourselves in Europe in our own factory, using our own employees! We sell it for ten times less than comparable professional-range machines used in clinics because we have a different business model: We think that everyone should be able to afford a clinic-grade dermaneedling machine and thus can afford to bring down the price because we're making these in large quantities. Electronic components, when bought a thousand identical parts at a time, are up to five times cheaper. This, and focusing on home users as well (high sales volume), not advertizing and no fancy packaging is how we can afford to charge only $170 instead of the $2000 that is customary for these type of machines, and then you still won't get the sophistication and safety of the Derminator. There is nothing in the professional dermaneedling world available like this. Hundreds of clinics have already purchased one. Chances are that next time you go for that 600 dollar needling appointment, they'll be using this machine!

The name reminds of The Terminator movie series and that's appropriate because contrary to the Chinese pen-type devices that cause microtearing because they are too weak due to the fact that they are based on permanent-makeup machines, the Derminator is very powerful and needles to the advertised depth and does this so fast that there is no microtearing. And just like the Terminator is an intelligent machine that came from the future to use force, the Derminator is a futuristic, computer-controlled machine that uses sophisticated technology and physical force to greatly improve skin problems such as stretch marks and acne scars.

This machine represents a paradigm-shift. It is so cheap that it will replace manual dermaneedling, also because it's indestructible* and can be re-sold years later. Needle cartridges are only 3 and 4 dollars (for the single needle resp. the 9-needle cartridge). No shipping cost to nearly all addresses worldwide.

The machine has digitally set needling depth, controlled by a microprocessor and a depth sensor.

More info (link to store, videos, specifications, user manual etc.): http://derminator.com/

Make sure to watch the video where we show that our machine does not cause microtearing and competing devices do!


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UPDATE


The forum is read-only so I posted this for her:


Hello Sarah Vaughter!

I'm a customer of your dermarollers & stamps since I began my journey, back in 2013. I had a scar, inbetween my eyes; it was somewhat quite a deep scar. Here is my initial thread (and I provided a picture), where you gave your invaluable advice:

http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/would-like-to-try-out-dermarolling-with-suctioning!/?topicseen

Here are my pictures, they include my pre-dermaroll scar, a 4 month update, aswell as my current 15 month update:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=35lalg6&s=8#.VFBJjmdG6_o

I followed through with your advice: stamping initially every 3 weeks, but changed it to 4 weeks (due to work), but when I did my monthly dermarolls & stamping, with the single needles too, they were quite aggressive. As you can see from my initial picture, my scar is quite deep, infact, you can see the deep "crevice" with the help of shadows.

I took another picture by the 4th month, whereby you can tell that the edges have slightly smoothed out and the depth of the scar isn't as full as it once was. I was quite happy with this result to be honest, but I persevered because I remembered a comment you had made that sometimes building collagen "reaches its limit" in some individuals, but i continued.

The latest picture is of me at the 15month mark of my monthly and weekly dermarolling and single needling sessions.
I would actually say, that this is more of a "12month update" because the scar has been like this for a number of months, I just didn't get time to take pictures or take time to write to Sarah, due to work and family/relationship commitments, until now.

As you compare my initial photo, with my latest one you can definitely see changes. The edges have smoothed out significantly, the depth of the scar has lessened. The discolouration that you can see, is just of dry skin and will peel off.

Anyway Sarah, I'd like to thankyou from the bottom of my heart. Sure my scar hasn't gone away completely BUT it has come to a point where I can face the world without most people noticing it (besides me confiding about it to those closest to me). I will continue to carry on with my treatment regardless, for years to come, because I am hoping that my scar will "build up" even more than it is now (I often see a slight dent when I turn my head to the side and catch the shadow, you can tell I have a slight scar then).

To those reading my message, I feel it is important to take pictures of your treatment. It will illustrate to you the (positive) changes that you want. When I had initially started dermarolling and stamping my scar I would see an immediate difference, sure your scar will definitely look "better" post 48 hours stamping it, but thats just swelling. After a few weeks, this swelling will disappear and you're still left with your scar. If you take photos you'll see the changes that have taken place over months clearly, because collagen takes time to build up. Not only that, taking pics will illustrate to others in a similar position to yourself that their scars can get better. I wouldn't have believed Sarah, if she didn't provide her customers pictures...I was actually inspired by Mila's and Cesamaddictaol's pictures to carry on, when I didn't notice immediate changes to my scar! (Sarah you have my permission/rights to use my picture throughout your site!)

THANKYOU SARAH :)

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / We sell silicone sheets now
« on: June 03, 2014, 05:46:05 AM »
We have added silicone sheets to our offering, and we are extremely much cheaper than anywhere else:

http://shop.owndoc.com/product-list.php?silicone-sheets-scars-pg1-cid62.html

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / ACNE SCARS update after 4 years
« on: April 28, 2014, 11:21:16 AM »
This customer agreed to publish the content of her email on our forum:

 
------ Original Message ------
From: DELETED
To: "sarah@owndoc.com" <sarah@owndoc.com>
Sent: 18/03/2014 10:21:23
Subject: Update after 4 years
 
 
Hi Sarah,
 
I don't know what my login info is, I used to go by the name Anna on owndoc.com so I haven't been able to log in to write an update in quite a while.
 
I wanted to let you know that my acne scars have improved tremendously, as well as my chicken pox ones although I've seen greater improvement with my acne scarring. If I had to say percentage wise I would say my acne scars have improved by an impressive 80%, and my chicken pox ones by 40%. I am constantly mistaken for someone in their 20's and that's a nice plus ;) For the first time in a loooong time I am comfortable enough to wear my hair up and away from my face, you have literally CHANGED MY LIFE and I will forever be grateful to you. I will continue to be a loyal customer and I have told many friends and family members about your website. Right now I am continuing with the Dermarolling mostly for maintaining firmness, I'm almost 34 that's the stage my skin is going through now, and to smooth out whatever small acne scarring I have left.
 
On another note, your copper peptide serum is a miracle, I had a really bad breakout that scabbed over and almost always results in an indentation after it heals, I was applying the copper peptide serum on it two three times a day and guess what? It healed over completely smooth! No scar or indentation AT ALL! This has happened on more than one occasion, I wanted to let you know that, I can't believe it!
 
 I will also be rolling my stretch marks from two pregnancies with your 80 needle derma stamp, I'm excited to see the progress on that and will most definitely keep you posted.
 
Thank you again Sarah :) (((hugs)))) 
 
Sent from my iPad

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Benefit to needling newer scar?
« on: February 16, 2014, 01:13:59 PM »
Yes, it is safe to start microneedling. You can start about 6-8 weeks after the scar was formed.

If the scar is hypertrophic (raised), apply the pressure massage described here:

http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/what-to-do-about-hypertrophic-scars/msg4877/#msg4877

As soon as the scar is flat, stop doing the pressure massage.

For thin scars, buy our 1.5 mm dermastamp with 12 needles and stamp the scar very densely every three weeks. A scar will never disappear but stamping will smoothe out the texture and slightly improve the color.

Scars that are not  yet fully mature tend to improve more than fully matured scars but it is not always the case.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / acne scar - where to start
« on: February 14, 2014, 01:27:45 PM »
The dermaroller head is rolled over the skin, whereas a dermastamp does not roll and the needles are "stamped" into the skin through manual pressure.
 
A dermastamp is useful for more targeted and intensive treatment such as for individual acne scars, surgical- and other scars, stretch marks, individual wrinkles, individual hyper- or hypopigmented spots etc.
 
A dermaroller is suitable for the overall treatment of larger areas such as lost elasticity of the face, neck, décolleté and other areas, for enhancing the penetration of skin- or hair products, for the general improvement of skin texture etc.
 
Often a combination of the two is very useful, such as stamping individual acne scars and then rolling the entire area, stamping stretch marks and then rolling the entire area, stamping individual wrinkles and then rolling the entire face etc.
 
The remainder of your questions are answered in our dermarolling instructions:
 
http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf

Realted topic:
http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/best-way-to-get-better-results/

 

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / 57 y.old lady with deep wrinkles
« on: February 14, 2014, 01:14:15 PM »
To: "sarah@owndoc.com" <sarah@owndoc.com>
Sent: 12/02/2014 21:26:23
Subject: What do I need?
 
 

I think at this point I have read almost everything on your wonderful site, but I’m still a bit confused. I’m 57 and would like to treat deep wrinkles on my face and neck. Up ‘til now I have used rollers up to 1.5mm without any blood, just some redness. Should I be needling some areas, then stamping them and other areas, then dermarolling? And if so, which size tool should I be using for each, and then how often. Yours is the most knowledgeable, comprehensive and user-friendly site I’ve ever seen. I can already see that there is much I have been doing incorrectly. If you could please give me your best guess, I will purchase the products immediately and begin a new and improved routine.

 NAME DELETED

PS . With all my heart, I appreciate any help you can give me, and if you can, and desire to, post this question and your answer on your website, please do.

 

Hi, 

>I think at this point I have read almost everything on your wonderful site,


Thank you!

 
> but I’m still a bit confused. I’m 57 and would like to treat deep wrinkles on my face

 

- The wrinkles around the eyes

 I recommend a regular 1 mm dermaroller. Some of our customers prefer a 0.5 mm dermastamp.

Concerning the eye area, we recommend not rolling or stamping the area inside the red circles in the picture shown here:

 http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/can-i-use-a-dermaroller-on-this-area-under-the-eye-%28pic-included%29/

 When you roll/stamp around the eyes, pull/stretch your skin away from the eye with your one hand and roll/stamp it with the other.


-For the so called 11's (the two lines between the eyebrows) - our single needles are the best. Needle the lines every three weeks.

 

-For the wrinkles around the lips, buy a 1.5 mm dermastamp with 35 needles. This area is very sensitive and you may need a numbing cream. Buy a topical numbing cream in the pharmacy. It is called EMLA or it is a cream containing 5% Lidocaine. Stamp the wrinkles every three weeks.

 

 Buy our Infadolan ointment and apply a little after microneedling until the treated area heals. You can also apply a little Infadolan daily around your eyes and on top of your hands.

 

Consider buying our vit. C.

 

Do not buy Tretinoin cream unless you have hyperpigmentaion or sun damaged skin.

 

The copper peptides serum is useful for aging skin but it is not necessary for getting results with microneedling.

When you get experienced with dermarolling and when your 1 mm dermaroller get eventually blunt, you can even go for size 1.5 mm.

 

>and neck.

 

A regular 1 mm dermaroller. Use the same 1 mm dermaroller also on your entire face in addition to the above suggested treatments.

 
Sarah

 


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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Not sure what i'm doing wrong
« on: February 11, 2014, 04:11:14 PM »
Dermarolling can improve mild skin laxity and crêpey skin on the face, neck, decolletage and body or a wrinkly post-pregnancy abdomen, provided there is not too much excessive skin. The bulging, sagging abdomen after pregnancy is often due to the abdominal muscles not having gone fully back to their original position – this can only be fixed by a tummy tuck. I am sorry. After the tummy tuck, continue dermarolling the skin for further improvement.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Questions about needling scars
« on: February 11, 2014, 04:09:48 PM »
Thank you, Mustardseed, for your reply.

1- You can needle aggressively, there is no problem. Microneedling does not remove layers of skin so it always heals very quickly no matter how densely you needle. There are so many skin cells in one scar that you cannot even hit all of them and the cells will migrate from the surrounding tissue and that is also a reason why it heals so quickly.

In reply #14 in this forum thread:  http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/my-1-year-dermaroll-experience-for-acne-scars-%2815-sessions%29/msg5502/#msg5502 our forum member describes he only got results after starting to needle aggressively (it is not always the case).

I do not recommend needling/stamping the nose aggressively unless you started gently and tested several times how the scars on the nose react because this area is tricky and can heal unpredictably. In your case it turned out OK so you can do it aggressively even on the nose. But in this area, initial very gentle treatment testing is a must. 

2- Microneedling works without using any additional products. Supplying the skin with vitamins helps forming "ideal" conditions in the skin for collagen production etc.
Infadolan contains vit. A and D and is semi- occlusive (keeps the moisture in).  It should be applied until the treated area heals and goes back to normal. If you are prone to acne, do not apply Infadolan more than right after the treatment and use creams that you know do not break you out.

If you want to make sure your skin is saturated with vit. C for the "needling day", apply it for four consecutive days prior to needling and then continue applying a few times a week. You do not have to remove natural skin oils to apply vit. C but vit. C is not going to penetrate a layer of Infadolan or other very oily substance. That is all.  If you have visible vit. C residues on the skin in the morning or the skin feels sticky wash it off with tap water. There might be some white residues if you use high concentration.

3- I recommend a healthy diet, avoiding junk food and especially sugary soda drinks and of course no smoking. External application of vit. C is important because you cannot achieve really high levels in the skin by taking it orally. Various oral supplements can also be useful nevertheless there are no studies showing that specific supplements improved results of any skin procedures so it is not possible to make any such definite lists or recommendations. It is worth trying, that is all I can say.

4-  it is just important is not to rub on scabs (if you get scabs after microneedling) because removing scabs prematurely can leave a scar. Otherwise it is OK. 

5- No, it is not going to hurt your goal. They should also be kept moisturized after the treatment. To target the pressure massage on very small hypertrophic scars, you can use something small to apply the pressure (the thicker side of a toothpick or something like that).

http://forums.owndoc.com/dermarolling-microneedling/what-to-do-about-hypertrophic-scars/



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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Tiny white pimples after dermarolling
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:53:27 PM »
It is not a standard reaction after mcironeedling but it is not uncommon and several customers did report getting bumps or whiteheads.  Surprisingly, the reaction usually did not happen after the first treatment but after the third or so treatment and they always disappeared.

Rough, dry, flaking and tingling skin after microneedling is completely normal and you should moisturize a lot.

You should not roll until your whiteheads are gone.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Best Skin Care Routine
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:29:12 PM »
In our experience, a dermastamp or a combination of a dermastamp and dermaroller is more effective for acne scars than a dermaroller alone. You should definitely add the dermastamp and during the same session, first stamp the scars with a 1.5 mm dermastamp and then roll the entire area.

For your cyst scarring, use a 1.5 mm dermastamp every 3-4 weeks. What you can try is applying Tretinoin cream (A-Ret) on these scars right after stamping. It may help softening the scar tissue. I do not normally recommend applying Tretinoin right after microneeding but is some special cases (any scars or stretch marks with tough scar tissue) i do recommend it. 

Concerning your oils, keep the skin moisturized after microneedling until it heals. For the rest, if you feel your skin "likes" the oils, apply them as you suggested. Infadolan is very oily so I do not think it needs oils in addition to that.

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Not sure what i'm doing wrong
« on: February 10, 2014, 12:12:56 PM »
Hi,

Your posting is off-topic on this forum. You posted photos of dermarollers that are not ours and which we tested as inferior, especially the one that doesn't have needles but stamped knives.

Your star pattern rolling technique is a technique we warn against and the products you use are not products we recommend and are potentially harmful.

Your posting can also be regarded as SPAM for claiming that various dubious products for which you mention a brand name are "good for the skin".

As to the likely reason why you got no results:

DMSO is a solvent to carry chemicals into the skin. It completely saturates all skin layers with itself. It should never be used in conjunction with dermaneedling. It may completely block the inflammatory processes required. The other product is outrageously expensive and contains sulphur which may also interfere with the inflammatory processes. I suggest you don't roll random chemicals into your skin (I counted six products you're rolling in now - that's a cocktail of dozens of chemicals!) because they very well may completely block the inflammatory biochemical processes you're seeking to induce.

This forum is a place where we answer questions about our products and our recommendations to our customers. That is all I have time for, my apologies.

(OP banned for forum rule violations - sorry but we can either stay on topic or close this forum)

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Dermarolling / Microneedling / Re: Not sure where to start??
« on: February 08, 2014, 11:18:45 AM »
She emailed me the after pictures:

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I just received this email:

Hey just emailing update. So far I've done 5 dermastamp sessions and 1 single needling session. The 15th January will be 6 months. I am amazed of my results so far!! The marks on my leg I can hardly see anymore! I took a one month break and I will be starting my second single needling session this week....can't wait!! This is a close up of my marks

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She sent me this update:

Hey Sarah this is my 4 month pic update.. 5 sessions so far... I am going to start the single needling next week! Can't wait ! This pic is taken with iPhone camera in natural light ... can't believe the improvement so far!
Thank you so much again!