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SarahVaughter

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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2012, 12:12:00 PM »
From the study:

 

"In the beginning of suction period, elevated lesions were not

suctioned until they became flat. On the first days, we used less

negative pressure; but in the subsequent sessions, depending on

the condition of scars, we could increase negative pressure (even

to maximum: )70 mmHg), length of time (not more than 4 s in

each pass) and the number of suctioning passes (even 8–12 passes)

per session.
‘Effective suctioning caused oedema and haemorrhages

in the subcised scars and led to ELEVATION OF DEPRESSING SCARS

  ABOVE THE SKIN SURFACE’ (Fig. 1f,g)."

"high grade of improvement was mostly in patients in group A1 who had almost daily suctioning in the first week of suctioning period"




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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #76 on: August 25, 2012, 12:32:13 PM »
Hey Sarah, do you reccommend dermastamping scars before getting filler treatments for scars? This way the filler can help lift the scar that isn't being held down ?

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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #77 on: August 25, 2012, 04:16:39 PM »
I do recommend dermastamping before getting filler treatment but not very shortly prior to the treatment because stamping will renew deep layers of skin and this renewal could speed up the elimination of the filler.
 
Wait at least one week.
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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2012, 08:45:49 PM »
Ataully Sarah I am getting this treatment

http://www.skincentral.com/en/health-tips/airgent-acne-scars-treatment.html

It is basically fillers using Kinetic energy instead of needles but I will wait three weeks between stamping and the treatment.

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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2012, 12:33:49 AM »
Hi again, question about suctioning,  wondering if I overdid it. Please see below, this is one of the days I suctioned really strongly. (I suctioned everyday the first week then switch to every other day the second week)

My question is, should we count 6 weeks (Im using the 2mm dermastamp) from the last session of stamping, or from the last day of suctioning? Since the brusing and light bleeding is recurrent with the suctioning?  Thanks!

Mila
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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2012, 03:15:49 PM »
Oh boy.. Some of the cups posted in the image in this thread areway too large to be used on the skin, severe bruising will result. This is why the suction cups that we're selling (since today!) are smaller. Treatment takes longer, but severe bruising such as this can be avoided.

The good news is that the bruising from the suction may enhance the efficacy of microneedling.

Waiting six weeks is enough. Unless it takes really a long time for the bruises to subside.

How long do you stay red like this?

If you feel uncomfortable walking around with such large red area, stamp and suction a smaller area during your session. As soon as it heals, stamp and suction another small area.
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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2012, 09:33:54 PM »
Oh ive just been using the smallest one (about 3/4'' wide) The brusing doesnt bother me, it just subsides in 2 days, I don't mind yesterday was the last night to suction. So moving forward , i will stamp again in 4 weeks from now... (2 weeks have passed) Looking forward to your smaller cups! Thanks

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« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2012, 04:57:30 AM »
I just wanted to show everyone that we are working hard on getting the new single needles designed and produced.

This is the approximate shape. We are working on making the needle handle more comfortably now, so the design isn't final yet.

It will be ready somewhere in January 2013 unfortunately.
This really is a major project for us. $5000,- for the mold and initial design, $15000,- for an initial order, and that excludes shipping and customs fees. All in all a $25000,- project but we will then be the only vendor with a single needle to perfectly treat many skin problems with. Our previous single needle did not stop exactly at the depth it had to - this one will.

(The needle body in this picture is in reality smaller than shown on a computer screen and the actual needle is still missing)
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 05:01:31 AM by SarahVaughter »
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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2012, 08:54:21 PM »
Thank you, Sarah, for your efforts and investment in developing the perfect single needle.  I'm looking forward to purchasing one as soon as they're available.

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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2012, 05:53:01 AM »
They will be very cheap (5 for $9 dollars).

(2 x magnification, in reality these needles are much smaller.)
« Last Edit: November 16, 2012, 12:56:49 PM by SarahVaughter »
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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2012, 01:01:19 PM »
And please note that we now also sell suction cups for dermaneedling.
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Re: Subcision-suction method for acne scars
« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2013, 05:52:23 PM »
The first batch of single needles are in stock!

http://shop.owndoc.com/product-info.php?singleneedles-pid172.html
My comments should not be considered medical advice.

The dermaneedling part of our site is http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/

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